The small school movement and the charter school movement are definitely forces that are having increasing impact on public schools.  It is hard to find a more out-spoken advocate for both of these movements as Joe Nathan.  He was active in the formulation of small charter schools at the beginning of the modern-day small-schools movement. He is the Director of the University of Minnesota Center for School Change.  The center features and promotes charter schools.  This is Joe’s first visit to a Senior Dad Briefing Room, and we discuss his background, beliefs, and define areas of agreement and disagreement. Some of Joe’s ideas are controversial and are hotly debated by national leaders of the small school movement and by opponents of the charter school movement.  Joe Nathan- What type of change do you want?